A few weeks ago some government members already started to think about an investigation of the CIA, GZ reported.

Latest Event included Mike Ruppert, copvcia.com in front of 1000 listeners in Portland.

http://www.copvcia.com
1,000 Turn Out In Oregon to Hear Mike Ruppert Expose Government Complicity in the WTC, Pentagon Attacks

FTW, December 5, 2001 –

"..On November 28th an estimated 1,000 people came from as far away as Seattle and San Francisco to Portland State University to see FTW Publisher/Editor Mike Ruppert give a 2 ½ hour lecture and documentary presentation on the events surrounding the September 11th attacks and their aftermath. Starting with an offer of $1,000 to anyone who could show that any of the sources he cited were not authentic or misrepresented, Ruppert launched into an display of more than 40 visual exhibits showing government complicity in and foreknowledge of the attacks.

The event was organized by the campus newspaper The Rear Guard and its editor Dimitris Desyllas. “I never expected that we would have this kind of turnout,” Desyllas said. “But it is obvious that the public has very deep concerns about what we are being told and what the government is doing. We eventually brought in 860 chairs and there were people all around the walls and on the floor.” One of the volunteer videographers at the event was a Native American spiritual teacher of the Dakota Sioux nation, Skip Mahawk. Mahawk, then with the 101st Airborne Division, won the Congressional Medal of Honor at the legendary 1969 Vietnam War battle known as Hamburger Hill. Mahawk refused to accept the decoration.

Ruppert’s lecture was full of documentary evidence. After pointing out – among other things – that the Chief of Pakistani intelligence (approved for his position by the CIA) ordered a $100,000 wire transfer to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta; that the Bush family had business dealings with the bin Laden family through the Carlyle Group, that the U.S. and British governments had extensive military deployments already in the area before the attacks, and that the Bush administration had ordered the FBI to stop investigating two relatives of Osama bin Laden living near CIA headquarters this January, Ruppert launched into the centerpiece of the lecture which was a visual presentation of his timeline of events around September 11th - which left some members of the audience in tears. See: http://www.copvcia.com/stories/nov_2001/lucy.html.

Click on image to enlarge.

Special attention was also paid to a newly resurrected Unocal pipeline to transport oil and natural gas from the Central Asian republics to the Pakistani coast for sale to China and Japan. Henry Kissinger is on both ends of that deal.

Audience reaction and anger was strongest as Ruppert presented selected quotes from “The Grand Chessboard,” a 1997 book by former Carter National Security Advisor and member of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Those quotes - along with maps of Central Asia - indicated clearly that the current war had been in the planning stages for at least four years. Two particular quotes from Brzezinski indicating the need for a Pearl Harbor-like attack evoked boos and hisses for the intelligence expert and professor who also served in the Reagan Administration.

Ruppert closed the lecture with an analysis of the assault on American civil liberties since September 11th in the form of the so-called PATRIOT Act and several unilateral decisions made by President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft which have effectively nullified three amendments to the Bill of Rights and taken away part of another. He also showed documentary evidence from Congress supporting his claim that the Bush administration was going to loot the Social Security Trust Fund.

The audience responded to the lecture with a two minute standing ovation..."

Source: Elombe Brath , The New York Amsterdam News (Nov. 22-28, 2001)

"..with the present crisis revolving the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Ralph Schoenman,
a veteran human rights activist and critic of US covert manipulation of events in the Middle East and South Africa finds himself
among those analysts who believe that others might have been responsible for the tragic events -other than the usual
suspects, Osama Bin Laden and Al-Quida.
Schoenman will be returning to Harlem to appear at the Oberia Dempsey Center on Friday Nov.23 , the day after Thanksgiving.

..Acknowledging that both bin Laden and al-Quiada are involved in terrorism, Schoenberg will talk about who provided
training and financial resources for their decried activities, and of covert business relations between bin Laden's family and Bush's.

Schoenman argues that Sept.11 might not be just an open and-shut case, as it is being presented. In his view, it is perhaps more
like a Whodunit.

Since the 1960s, Schoenman, an activist for over 45 years in support of international movements for liberation, peace
and social justice movements, has traveled the world as a lecturer, activist and participant in revolutionary struggles.
He supported Patrice Lumumba when the United State, Belgium, France and Britain cosnpired to overthrow the legendary
Prime Minister of the Congo, met Malcolm X when they both were in London and was arrested in Bolivia for being in regular
contact with Che Guevara during Che's struggle to assist revolutionairies in the Andean country.
In fact, Schoenman was imprisoned in Bolivia for his contacts with Guevara.

..Schoenman is the author of "Iraq and Kuwait: A history suppressed..
..And he is one of the few survivors of the Nazi holocaust in Hungary, in which seventy-five members of his family were killed.
..Schoenman who was the director of the Who killed Kennedy Commitee, ..will also revisit that event with respect to
its connection to the Sept.11 tragedy and the war in Afghanistan.

..The questiona are "Who knew what?" and "When did they know it?".
The answers Schoenman provides will make people either take up the struggle or give it up; however his approach to
fighting back against the powers that tends to make people want to do the former..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4293682,00.html

FBI claims Bin Laden inquiry was frustrated
Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11

Greg Palast and David Pallister
Guardian

Wednesday November 7, 2001

"..FBI and military intelligence officials in Washington say they were prevented for political reasons from carrying out full investigations into members of the Bin Laden family in the US before the terrorist attacks of September 11.

US intelligence agencies have come under criticism for their wholesale failure to predict the catastrophe at the World Trade Centre. But some are complaining that their hands were tied.

FBI documents shown on BBC Newsnight last night and obtained by the Guardian show that they had earlier sought to investigate two of Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington and a Muslim organisation, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), with which they were linked.

The FBI file, marked Secret and coded 199, which means a case involving national security, records that Abdullah bin Laden, who lived in Washington, had originally had a file opened on him "because of his relationship with the World Assembly of Muslim Youth - a suspected terrorist organisation".

WAMY members deny they have been involved with terrorist activities, and WAMY has not been placed on the latest list of terrorist organisations whose assets are being frozen.

Abdullah, who lived with his brother Omar at the time in Falls Church, a town just outside Washington, was the US director of WAMY, whose offices were in a basement nearby.

But the FBI files were closed in 1996 apparently before any conclusions could be reached on either the Bin Laden brothers or the organisation itself. High-placed intelligence sources in Washington told the Guardian this week: "There were always constraints on investigating the Saudis".

They said the restrictions became worse after the Bush administration took over this year. The intelligence agencies had been told to "back off" from investigations involving other members of the Bin Laden family, the Saudi royals, and possible Saudi links to the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Pakistan.

"There were particular investigations that were effectively killed."

Only after the September 11 attacks was the stance of political and commercial closeness reversed towards the other members of the large Bin Laden clan, who have classed Osama bin Laden as their "black sheep".

Yesterday, the head of the Saudi-based WAMY's London office, Nouredine Miladi, said the charity was totally against Bin Laden's violent methods. "We seek social change through education and cooperation, not force."

He said Abdullah bin Laden had ceased to run WAMY's US operation a year ago.

Neither Abdullah nor Omar bin Laden could be contacted in Saudi Arabia for comment.

WAMY was founded in 1972 in a Saudi effort to prevent the "corrupting" ideas of the west ern world influencing young Muslims. With official backing it grew to embrace 450 youth and student organisations with 34 offices worldwide.

Its aim was to encourage "concerned Muslims to take up the challenge by arming the youth with sound understanding of Islam, guarding them against destructive ideologies, and instilling in them level-headed wisdom".

In Britain it has 20 associated organisations, many highly respectable.

But as long as 10 years ago it was named as a discreet channel for public and private Saudi donations to hardline Islamic organisations. One of the recipients of its largesse has been the militant Students Islamic Movement of India, which has lent support to Pakistani-backed terrorists in Kashmir and seeks to set up an Islamic state in India.

Since September 11 WAMY has been investigated in the US along with a number of other Muslim charities. There have been several grand jury investigations but no findings have been made against any of them.

Current FBI interest in WAMY is shown in their agents' interrogation of a radiologist from San Antonio, Texas, Dr Al Badr al-Hazmi, who was arrested on September 12 and released without charge two weeks later. He had the same surname as two of the plane hijackers.

He was also questioned about his contacts with Abdullah bin Laden at the US WAMY office.

Mr Al-Hazmi said that he had made phone calls to Abdullah bin Laden in 1999 trying to obtain books and videotapes about Islamic teachings for the Islamic Centre of San Antonio..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/01/09/14_911_2.html

"..William Safire's "sources" (one of whom, he admits, is Karl Rove) have indicated that the terrorists knew lots of secret stuff about Air Force One and White House procedures which can only mean one thing...a "mole" in the White House, or Secret Service, or the FBI, CIA, etc etc. This just happens to be a Bill Safire obsession that the White House is playing on. The subtext here is, of course, somehow it's Clinton's fault.

Now we understand. Apparently everyone in the whole world knows that Bush is a hero among heroes, and only he can bring us through this horrible tragedy. That's why there are spies in the White House plotting against him, and terrorists hijacking planes with full tanks of gas so they can chase him around the sky. It's all about the Bush. He is THE MAN. Without his steady hand at the helm, we are doomed to chaos.

..I believe that those who attacked America on September 11 perceived a weakness in our nation, but they were wrong. They perceived disagreement and dissent to be vulnerability. Since these attackers have no understanding of freedom, they had no way of knowing that peaceful, civil disagreement and even satire is a function of a strong Democracy...

Before I go further, I should pay tribute to the conspiracy theories relatd to this, briefly. George Bush Sr. was head of the CIA, and became President. Rumor has it that he purposefully threw the 1992 election to Clinton, and we all know Dole never stood a chance of winning in 1996. Why would the Republicans let Clinton be President for 8 years? So in 2000 they could shove a bumbling idiot, the son of George Bush, ex-head of the CIA, into the White House as a pawn of their 'larger plan'.

The conspiracy theorists predicted this. They predicted a massive tragedy that would be used to usurp civil liberties. With the unexplained behavior of the Republicans and the verociousness of their cause to put Dubya in office AT ALL COSTS, for no apparent reason, and with their pawn conveniently the son of the possible mastermind, I think everyone should take a long, hard, look at the events this week and how Republican officials have responded to it, and give the conspiracy theorists a little credit...

..That also bears the question to every American right now: are YOU willing to die for your liberty, and the liberty of those who will come after you? If you are, then you must steadfastly oppose the notion of suspending civil liberties for safety. You must be willing to die by the attacks of terrorists in the name of freedom. You must be just as brave as those who came before us, who willingly laid down their lives for freedom, and you must be able to do it every day. If we suspend our freedom in the name of safety, we have already lost. The terrorists will have won. And they will be joyful, no matter how many we kill in a 'war.'."

http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html

"I hope the investigation that results from this petition will reveal the depth of deception that Bush, the U.S. government, and military have perpetrated on the citizens of the United States and the world."

"Let's have some truth in this matter, too many unanswered questions out there"

"The facts put out on the media are contadictary and don't make sense"

"The questions should be easily answered, if there's nothing to hide"

"I pray that the truth is made known, so that all of those innocent victims did not die in vain....."

"These are serious questions, the television media is no longer rational, this is a plea for sensibility"

"i would like to see the truth as opposed to the media/military propaganda"

"I know the gov and media are lying."

"investigation into 9-11-01 is mandatory, most evidence points to our own CIA"

"Also please look into anonamous FAA reports of a stand down order from either Bush or Cheney to standard intercept protocals of off course planes on 9/11."
(Barry Smith, New York 12020)

"USA is a free country !"

"I have no faith in the current adm. to tell us the truth about anything."

"The truth will set us free."

"As Mr Bush and his friends are share holders in the Carlyle Group which owns the only company which produces the anthrax antidote, and the prices of the antidote rose from around 50 cents to over $10, will the US government investigate any financial dealings of Mr Bush and his friends (including the bin Laden family) in the Carlyle group around or just after the attack"

"WOW some serious stuff"

"I am not a US citizen, but I believe this is a matter which affects the entire World, and I do hope an independent investigation happens before it is too late."

"I feel that all these items should be looked into very closeley! I've sent supporting documentation to Sen. Thompson and Sen. Levin via the net.."

""We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market, is a nation that is afraid of its people." President John F. Kennedy, remarks from Voice of America, Feb. 26, 1962"

"I will be sending this URL to everyone I know."

"Bush Administration is ruthlessly taking more power than any US administration in history."

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order," David Rockefeller."

"also, FEMA's foreknowledge of 9/11"

"I definitely support this investigation!"

"if this can be answered, it should be."

"Everyone seemed to know about the attack in advance except us! How come?" (Patrick Phillips, New York)

"If the US is going to use my tax dollars to pay for this war and those in power. I deserve to know the truth."

"Too many coincidences, especially the put option transaction on UAL. We all heard about it initially when we thought bin laden had made money off the attacks. Why are we not hearing a damn thing about it now? We, the People, demand the truth!"

"The world needs to know the TRUTH"

"The biggest crime of all time deserves the biggest investigation of all time. Anything less is an injustice to our nation. "

"Do you think we're all so stupid as to think this happend without warning. Some of us remember the travesty of the Warren Commission "

"Much better evidence to suggest govt. involvement than the fake OBL videos"

"From the start the 9/11 bunko has been movie fiction."

"I really hope this makes it!"

"what is the truth"

"In the words of John Pilger, "This war is a FRAUD!""

"I AM NO TRAITOR....I JUST WANT ALL THE POSSIBILITIES EXPLORED. IF YOU, THE PEOPLE OF THE GOVERNMENT DONT LIKE IT, COME AND GET ME! "

"Thank God the American People Have the Courage to ask for the Truth! "

"Everything about 9.11 and the U.S. gubmint STINKS!!"

"All new in 2002"

"Urgent! Urgent! Urgent!"

"WHY did Gov. Jeb Bush sign an Executive Order in effect putting the State of Florida under Martial Law exactly 4 days prior to the Sept 11th attacks? This with minimal news coverage or acknowledgement by the citizens of FL!"

"why was our Air Force ordered to stand down?"

"get on with it."

"The overwhelming evidence of U.S. complicity in the events of 9/11 must be investigated."
(No.1 Signature Lori R. Price)

Please read also:
911-The other story (Chronology)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=630.50

Here is his latest interview (Web-Translated with Sysoft)

http://www2.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/2002/01/12/ak-sn-in-558560.html

There traces are like from a trampling elephant's herd "

The first suspicion came to him, when he sat in the Bundestag.
Secret services became his(its) subject. Andreas von Bülow closely to them most terrible to: a complication in the New York notices.

Stephan Lebert / Norbert Thomma

He was a Minister for research and technology in the cabinet of Helmut Schmidt and 25 years of SPD representatives in the Bundestag. In the investigating committee Schalck-Golodkowski Andreas von Bülow, 64, the work of the secret services experienced. As a consequence he wrote the book " on behalf of the state " ("Im Namen des Staates".) "Im Namen des Staates". Von Bülow lives as a lawyer in Bonn.

They(You) look so angry, correctly raised.

What excites me, I can explain(express) to you: I see that after the dreadful notices from the 11th of September the whole political public is pushed in a direction which I hold for wrong!

What you understand under it?

I am surprised that many questions are not placed. Usually it is with such a terrible history(story) so that different traces and proofs emerge which are commented then, by the investigators, by the media, from the government: what Is there in it or not? The explanations(statements) are plausibly? This time is not at all the case. This already started few hours(lessons) after the assassination attempts in New York and Washington and...

... During these hours(lessons) was horror, sorrow.

Correctly, nevertheless, but basically it was astonishing: There are 26 secret services in the USA with an estimate of 30 billion dollars...

More than the German defence budget...

They could not prevent the notices. Yes, they have not even anticipated a little bit of it. 60 important minutes the interceptors in the ground(bottom) left armed forces and secret services. However, 48 hours(lessons) later the FBI presents a list with suicide assassins. Within ten days turns out that seven still alive of these people.

How, please?

Yes, and why the FBI chief has taken a stand to no discrepancy? Where from this list came, why she was wrong? If I was a leading public prosecutor in a so inquiry(establishment), I would step regularly before the public and give information about the fact which trace is void and which not.

The US government has spoken after the notices of an exceptional case: One is in a war. Is it does not understandable that one does not inform of everything the enemy what one knows about him?

Naturally. But a government which goes in the war, must state in a procedure first who is the aggressor, the enemy. For this she is proof-obliged. After own admitting she could submit to this day no court-usable proofs.

Some information about the assassins is covered by searches. So the presumed leader, Mohammed Atta has flown, still in the morning 11th of September from Portland to Boston to get there into the engine which rests in the World Trade Center.

If this Atta was the crucial man(husband) by the action, nevertheless, it is strange that he has come the risk to fly extremely briefly before only by another aeroplane to Boston. If this engine had had a few minutes delay, he would not have been in the aeroplane which has been kidnapped. Why a refined assassin should do this? One can reread with CNN incidentally that none of these names stood on the official passenger lists. Nobody has one four check in procedure run through. And why none of the threatened pilots about the control lever has given the arranged signal code 7700 to the ground stations? Besides: the shockproof built flight recorders sure about fire and vocal recording devices from the cockpit contain no auswertbare data.

This is found(seems)...

As well as assassins who leave traces like a trampling elephant's herd by their(her) preparations? They(you) paid with credit cards on their(her) name, they announced themselves to their(her) flight instructors with clear name. They(you) leave hired car with Arab flight manuals for jumbo jet jets. They(you) take on the way in the suicide wills and farewell letters which fall into hands of the FBI because they were stowed away wrongly or were addressed. There traces were put like with a paperchase which one should follow! There is also the theory of a British aeroplane engineer: Then the control of the aeroplanes has been taken from the pilots possibly outwardly from the hand. The Americans would have developed a method in the 70s to save kidnapped engines by an intervention in the computer control. This technology has been abused here. This is a theory...

... Surely sounds adventurously and from the speech never was.

See! I do this theory not to own to me, but I find them(her) reflection-worth. And what is with the obscure share deals? Week before the assassination attempt the turnovers have increased in the security trade with the airlines American Airlines, United Airlines and assurances(insurances) about 1200 per cent. It was about approximately 15 billion dollars. Some people must have known something. Who?

Speculate.

With the help of the dreadful notices the western masses democracy of a brainwashing has been submitted. The enemy's picture of the anticommunism is not good any more, it should be replaced with the people of Muslim belief. One subordinates to them, they would bear the suicide terrorism..."

"..Brainwashing? This is strong Tobak!

Yes? But the idea with the enemy's picture does not come from me. She comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two guiding intellectual forces of American secret service policy and foreign affairs. Already in the middle of the 90s Huntington, the people(persons) meant in Europe and the USA bräuchten somebody whom they could hate - the strength the identification with own society(company). And Brzezinski, the mad dog, already advertised as an adviser of president Jimmy Carter to the exclusive access right of the USA on all raw materials of the world, first of all oil and gas.

They(You) mean, the events from the 11th of September...

Fit just(exactly) in the draft of the armaments industry, the secret services, the whole military industrial-academic complex. Nevertheless, this is remarkable. Now the big raw material reserves on the territory of the former Soviet Union stand to the arrangement, also the ways for the Pipelines and...

This has described Erich Follath in the "mirror" in detail: " It is about military bases, about drug, around mineral oil and natural gas reserves "...

I state: the design of the assassination attempts was a technical like organizational masterly achievement. At few minutes to kidnap four large-capacity aircrafts and to steer within an hour(lesson) in complicated aircraft movements in the aim! This is unthinkable without support of many years from the secret machines of government(state) and industry.

They(You) are a conspiracy theorist!

Yes. This is the mockery of those(those) which gladly follow the officially was reported line. Also investigative journalists are fed on propaganda and disinformation. Who doubts this, that can not have all cups in the cupboard! Nevertheless, this is your(their) reproach.

Your(Their) career speaks rather against the assumption that you are not completely with reflection. They(you) already became in the middle of the 70s an Assistant Secretary in the ministry of defence, in 1993 you were SPD speakers in the investigating committee Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski...

And everything started with it basically! Till there I had no big knowledge of the work of secret services. And now we had to state a big discrepancy: We analyzed the machinations the state security man and other eastern secret services in the area of the white-collar crime, but as long as we wanted to know something about the method of approach of the FIS or the CIA, it was blocked mercilessly. No information, no cooperation, nothing! There I have become the first time sceptic..."
Schalck-Golodkowski has contrived for GDR among other things different foreign businesses. When you considered his(its) case nearer...

There we thought, for example, a trace in Rostock where Schalck has organized his(its) arms cache., and then one bumps with an establishment(branch) of Schalck in Panama, and then there one bumps with Manuel Noriega who was for years a president, drug trafficker and money washer in one, not? And then this Noriega stood also still on the pay roll the CIA. With 200 000 dollars by annum. These were such things which have made me correctly curious.

They(You) have written a book about the machinations of CIA and Co. Meanwhile, they(you) have become an expert what concerns the strangeness in the work of secret services.

The word "strangeness" is the wrong formulation. What has already happened everything on behalf of the secret services and happens, are correct crimes.

What determines, you would say, first of all, the work of the secret services?

So that we do not get on wrongly: I think that secret services have absolutely their(her) sense and...

They(You) hold nothing of earlier demands of the Greens who wanted to abolish these services?

No. It is correct to throw a look behind the backgrounds. The news production about the intentions of an enemy, that is meaningful. It is important if one tries to put himself in the brains of the opponents. Who wants to understand the methods of the CIA, must be busy with his(its) major tasks, covered operations: below the leading of the war level, off every international law foreign(strange) governments(states) should be affected, possibly while one produces revolts or terrorist attacks, as a rule combined with drug trafficking and arms trade and money laundering. This is quite simple in the core: One equips violent people with weapons.

Because, however, at any rate rauskommen may that a secret service is behind it, are blurred with big expenditure every traces. I have the impression that such secret services spend 90 per cent of their(her) time with it: wrong tracks lay. So that if irgendjemand a complicity of the services states which can be subordinated disease of the conspiracy mania. The truth often comes only decades later. The CIA chief Allan Dulles has said: in the doubt I tell a lie even the congress!..."

"..
The American journalist Seymour M. Hersh has written in the "inhabitant of New York", also some people of CIA and government assumed of the fact that some traces were probably put to confuse. Who should have done, please, Mr von Bülow, all that?

I do not know also, where from also? I use only my healthy human intelligence and state: the terrorists have behaved as remarkably, as it only is. And as religious Muslims they also were still in a striptease bar and have put got drunk of the dancer bank notes in the panties.

There should be even such a thing.

May be. I can prove nothing as a single fighter, this exceeds my possibilities. However, I, really, have difficulties to present to me that all one separate bad man(husband) has cooked up in his(its) cave.

Mr von Bülow, you say himself that you only stand with your(their) criticism. Earlier you belonged to the political establishment, today you are an outsider.

This is sometimes a problem, but in it one gets used. Incidentally I know an amount of people, also very influential which agree with me behind reproached hand.

You have still contact with old SPD-road companions like Egon Bahr and the former chancellor Helmut Schmidt?

There is no more close contact. I wanted at the last SPD Party Congress, however, have become ill.

Can it be, Mr von Bülow that you spread today the typical anti-Americanism?

Nonsense, this has to do actually nothing with anti-Americanism. I am a big admirer of this big, free society(company) and was this always. I have studied in the USA.

How you have the idea that there could be a connection between the notices and the American secret services?

You remember the first notice on the World Trade Center in 1993?

With the assassination attempt six people(persons) died by a bomb, more than thousand were hurt(violated).

There stood in the center as a bomb amateur handicraftsman a former Egyptian officer. He had gathered some Muslims to himself for the notice. These were in spite of entry-forbidden of the State Department of the CIA in the country(land) guided woren. At the same moment the chief of the gang was an informant of the FBI. And he agreed with the authorities: at the last minute the dangerous explosive material is replaced with an innocent powder. The FBI did not hurry up. The bomb has risen so to speak with knowledge of the FBI. The official act version was rapidly found: offenders were bad Muslims.

At that time they(you) sat in the cabinet of Helmut Schmidt, as soldiers of the Soviet Union marched in Afghanistan. How at that time this was?

The Americans pressed on trade sanctions, they demanded the boycott of the olympic games in Moscow...

Itself the Federal Government connected...

And today we know: It was the strategy of the American security adviser Brzezinski to destabilize the Soviet Union of adjacent Muslim governments(states) from: One lures the Russians to Afghanistan and then prepares to them the hell on earths, their(her) Vietnam. With relevant support of the US secret services at least 30 000 Muslim fighters were trained in Afghanistan and Pakistan, loud good-for-nothings and fanatics who were ready for all and are it to this day. And one of them is Osama be shop. I have already written from years: " from this brood arose in Afghanistan in Koranic schools with western and saudischen money big-pulled Taliban which terrorize the country(land) at present and ruin. "

Even if you say, it would be to the USA about the raw materials of the region: starting point of the US attacks is still this terrorist attack which has cost the life to thousands of people(persons).

Completely correctly: One must always call to himself this horrible act in recollection. Nevertheless, nevertheless I may look in the analysis of political processes(lawsuits) who has advantages and disadvantages of it, or what is a chance. In the doubt a look at the map is always worthwhile where mineral resources and the access roads lie there? Then they put a ticket(map) with civil wars and trouble spots over there - they cover themselves. As well it is with the third ticket(map): main points of the drug trafficking. Where all this fits, there the American services are not far. Incidentally, the Bush government is connected about the family Be shops closely with the oil, gas and weapon deal.

What you hold actually from the be shop videos?

If one has to do it with secret services, one may subordinate manipulation in the highest quality. The technology could supply Hollywood. I hold the videos as an evidence for unsuitable.

They(You) credit with everything the CIA, really.

The CIA has to keep in the interest the Staatsräson of the USA with interferences abroad to no law, is not obliged to the international law, only the president orders. There is terrorism just also because there are services like the CIA. And if there means is shortened, peace is foreseeable, then goes off somewhere a bomb. With it is proved that it is not without services that the critics are drivellers, nuts has named father Bush them(her) who was a president and CIA manager. They(you) must see that the USA put 30 billion dollars in the secret services and 13 billions in the fight against drugs. And what comes, besides? The chief of a special unity of the strategic fight against drugs explained(expressed) after almost 30-year-old business hours desperate: in every extensive important Drogendealerei the case has been wound me by the CIA from the hand.

Reproach the Federal Government with how she has reacted after the 11th of September?

No. To accept, in these questions the Federal Government is independent, was certainly artless.

Mr von Bülow what you will do now?

Nothing at all. My task ends to say: So it can not have been, look for the truth! .."

Provincial leader: Sept 11, U.S plot to exert global hegemony

Mashhad, Khorassan Prov, Jan 18, IRNA --

"..Interim Friday Prayer leader
of this northeast Iranian province said, "September 11 U.S. terrorist
incidents were designed and carried out by the U.S. secret agencies
in order to assure exertion of America's full hegemony over the whole
world."
Hojjatoleslam Mohammad Farzaneh argued, that is the way the
"free-minded intellectuals" think today around the globe.
He added, "a large number of innocent individuals got killed
during the said inhumane attacks, which is of trivial importance for
the U.S. political system, since the U.S. politicians merely care
for exerting their hegemony over vaster areas and securing more
interests at any cost."

Farzaneh said that the reason why the U.S. policy makers include
Iran in the list of the state sponsors of terrorism is that this
nation has succeeded to end the U.S. hegemony in this land relying on
endless power of Islam.
The Mashhad Friday Prayer leader added, "the U.S. administration
attacked the defenseless Afghan nation soon after the September 11
terrorist attacks without presenting any reasonable proof for
interference of Afghans in those attacks and the American
bombardments that are still going on there have led to the death of at
least 20 thousand, mostly innocent, Afghans up to now."

He said that the health and hygiene conditions in Afghanistan,
that has been under tough war conditions for 23 years is below the
minimum acceptable standards today and over 90 percent of the
oppressed Afghans are suffering from acute physical and mental
illnesses and stress, while that nation's life expectancy has already
decreased to 43 percent.
The prominent cleric asked, "isn't it surprising that now, four
months after the beginning of the U.S. heavy bombardments and two
months after launching their land operations there neither bin Laden,
nor any of the top Al-Qaeda or Taliban leaders have been arrested
inside or outside Afghanistan?"

He added, "that has been good excuse for the U.S. administration
to refrain from offering even one single dollar assistance to the
reconstruction cause of Afghanistan, in which most world countries
have hands for which the U.S. administration is naturally more
responsible, due to the heavy losses inflicted there during the U.S.
recent air raids."
Farzaneh who is also the president of Razavi Islamic University
predicted a dark future for the U.S. military staff in Afghanistan
whom he said are already scared of Afghan masses, who will never
permit the Americans to exert their "socio-political hegemony over
Afghanistan."
Elsewhere in his sermons, Farzaneh referred to half a century of
criminal acts against Muslims, led by the Zionists in occupied
Palestine, that still goes on uninterrupted due to strong and
comprehensive U.S. backing.
The academician cleric set example of the Lebanese nation and that
country's Hizbullah Party that kicked out first the Americans and
then the racist-Zionists from their country resorting to least
possible financial and physical resorts arguing, "no American or
Zionist authority can claim they gained slightest victories in that
country."

Referring to the recent threats made by certain U.S. officials
against Iran, he said, "the Americans have baseless hopes to gain
interests in Iran, which are mainly based on differences of opinion
among Iranian officials, poverty prevailing in certain parts of the
country, economic corruption and hedonistic tendencies among certain
groups of Iranians."
The Mashhad Friday Prayer leader asked, "why does (the U.S.
President George W.) Bush permit himself to use the word `must'
when talking of what he expects Iran to do today?"

And he himself replied, "America is sure about the results of
its cultural onslaught, (the negative effects of) convenient and
well-off living conditions for the minority and economic austerity
for the majority of Iranians and the poverty of masses here."

NOTE: The 911-scepticsm is worldwide inlcuding America itself.
Right now 4500 people signed a petition, which should investigate the oddities around 911.
More Infos at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html

http://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc235.html
Bush’s Racial Coup D’Etat and Intell Shutdown

"What is going on is the Bush family is an oil family. They have a
natural business and political inclination to support the royal
household and their retainers like the bin Laden family. These
relationships are cemented by joint business ventures, by the Saudis
making your son, who becomes president, rich. It is not a pay-off.
But let’s put it this way: would you think that the people who just
made your family wealthier than it already is, made you a couple of a
million bucks, would you immediately think these people also happen
to be funding people who are blowing up buildings in New York?

You
tend to say to your agencies which you control: “Those are really
good guys, leave them alone” – especially because if we annoy them
they will cut off our oil...

Osama is often compared to Hitler but he should be seen as John Gotti
times one hundred. He is running a massive international protection
racket: Pay me or I will blow you up. The fact these payments are made
is one of the things the Bush administration is trying very hard to
cover-up.

Now whether these payments were paid because they want to or it is
coercion the Bush administration does not want to make a point of it.
I have to tell you the Clinton administration was not exactly
wonderful on this either. One of the points I made on the BBC was
there was a Saudi diplomat who defected. He had 14,000 documents in
his possession showing Saudi royal involvement in everything from
assassinations to terror funding.

He offered the 14,000 documents to
the FBI but they would not accept them. The low-level agents wanted
this stuff because they were tremendous leads. But the upper-level
people would not permit this, did not want to touch this material.
That is quite extraordinary. We don’t even want to look. We don’t want
to know. Because obviously going through 14,000 documents from the
Saudi government files would anger the Saudis. And it seems to be
policy number one is we don’t get these boys angry. Unfortunately, we
see the results. We are blowing up Afghanistan when 15 of the 19
bombers were from Saudi Arabia.

Not that I am friends of the Taliban, who are vicious, brutal maniacs,
but 15 of the 19 were Saudis and we seem to be giving these guys a
full and complete pass...

"..got to tell you, I have seen this over and over again: my story on the
Florida elections - one of the things I found out was that Jeb Bush
had deliberately excluded at least 50,000 voters, 94% of them
democrats, because they had been convicted of a crime in another
state. Now Florida under the U.S. constitution and its own
constitution they cannot do that – punish someone for a crime in
another state by taking away their right to vote in Florida. You can’t
do that. They know that.

When we spoke to Jeb Bush’s functionaries
they said we know we can’t do that, and then quietly they said, but we
do it anyway under instructions from our superiors. The papers I was
working for said, “Well, Jeb Bush denied it.” And flat out denial from
an official was enough to stop all these investigations. Dead cold. I
was with Salon.com. They killed the story. And it was only later when
the U.S. Civil Rights Commission said I was correct, and then the
state of Florida admitted what they did, and then I was vindicated..."

http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=16890
VON BUELOW INTERVIEW BLOWS 911 CASE WIDE OPEN

Highlights:

"..If this Atta was the decisive man in the operation,
it's really strange that he took such a risk of taking a plane
that would reach Boston such a short time before
the connecting flight. Had his flight been a few minutes late,
he would not have been in the plane that was hijacked.
Why should a sophisticated terrorist do this?

One can, by the way, read on CNN (Internet)
that none of these names were on the official passenger lists.
None of them had gone through the check-in procedures.
And why did none of the threatened pilots
give the agreed-upon code 7700 over the [Steuerknueppel: STEERING NOB?] to the ground station?
In addition: The black boxes which are fire and shock proof,
as well as the voice recordings, contain no valuable data.."

"..what about
the obscure stock transactions?
In the week prior to the attacks,
the amount of transactions in stocks in American Airlines,
United Airlines, and insurance companies, increased 1,200%.
It was for a value of $15 billion.
Some people must have known something. Who? .."

First 911-scepticism on Canadian TV!

"Insight MediaFile" on Vision TV Monday, January 28, 10:30 pm Eastern
Time (that's 7:30 pm Pacific Time)

The topic will be:
"What Happened on 9/11 and why aren't the mainstream media asking that
question?"

CHANNEL NUMBERS for Vision TV are different depending where your are.
Look up the cable dial number of Vision TV in any TV guide.

REBROADCAST TIMES:
Thursday, Jan. 31, 7 am Eastern Time
Thursday, Jan. 31, 1:30 pm Eastern Time
Friday, Feb. 1, 1:30 am Eastern Time

On the last edition of "Insight MediaFile" (first broadcast Mon., Jan. 21) the show's host -- media critic Barrie Zwicker -- dared to suggest in his weekly commentary that the CIA, Pentagon and White House may be complicit in the horrendous events of Sept. 11th, 2001.

That commentary was the first in a series on MediaFile that will deal with this important issue. MediaFile is perhaps the first current affairs TV program in Canada to raise this possibility.

Barrie Zwicker says that following that show, "the program's senior producer, executive producer and program director decided we'll devote the WHOLE of next Monday's program to 'What Happened on 9/11 and why aren't the mainstream media asking that question?' It will lead off with our most extended viewer feedback segment ever, followed by the media panel on that topic, followed by Part 2 of my series. All commercial-free."

CONTACT the following to give your feedback, make comments or ask
questions:

Click here to send your feedback/comments regarding the program:
mailto:audience@visiontv.ca

Click here for more information about the program "Insight MediaFile":
http://www.visiontv.ca/programs/insight/insight.htm

Click here to reach Vision TV's audience relations person:
mailto:emailjralph@visiontv.ca

Or, phone Vision TV: (416) 368-3194

5 minute introductory segment can be viewed here with realplayer
http://clients.loudeye.com/imc/mayday/mediafile.ram

NOTE: please read more updates about that report here:
"Canada: Vision TV brings 911-scepticism report" at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=712.4

Source: JUDICIAL WATCH (who just tried to sue Dick Cheney)

Should President Bush hold people accountable in his administration for the most egregious failure of national security in American history?

Yes 84%
No 15%

http://judicialwatch.org/

Norman Mailer:
"..The right wing benefited so much from Sept. 11 that, if I were still a conspiratorialist, I would believe they'd done it.."
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020206/re/mailer_attacks_dc_1.html

Larry Hagman:
"On 'Dallas' I played a Texas Oil man who was a Mean,Heartless,lying, scumbag of a human being. In reality, George Bush makes J.R. Ewing look like a Choirboy!"
(On E News Daily, Larry Hagman was promoting his new book, "Hello Darlin'")

"Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., told [George]Tenet that Americans, as they sit chatting in cafes, want to know why, if American Taliban John Walker Lindh could meet bin Laden, the CIA couldn't get an agent near him."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20020206/ap_on_go_co/global_threat_12

http://www.ceiberweiber.at/wahl1/desmantelaraamerica.htm

Le Winter writes about the manipulation of the president campaign of George Bush in Florida by the CIA and possible ties by the CIA to 911.

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/archives/story.asp?id=DCC82857-AA3C-41FB-997D-EDA05CC774E3

The truth is out there ... right?
At first, it all seemed so obvious. It was those Islamic terrorists. Osama bin Laden. Mullah Omar. George W. Bush had nothing to do with it ... did he?

Ian Mulgrew
Vancouver Sun

Saturday, February 23, 2002

"The right wing benefited so much from September 11 that, if I were still a conspiratorialist, I would believe they'd done it."

Norman Mailer

When the paladin of Camelot joined the fray, I knew 9/11 had become the Kennedy Assassination of the 21st century -- a real-life X-Files episode occurring before my eyes. Like those X-Files accounts of aliens living in oil deposits, this was a story with such staggering implications the mainstream media are loath to go near it. The question isn't who killed the president -- it's who piloted the airplanes that slammed into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and the Pennsylvanian countryside.

Just as there remains lingering doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald fired a burst of fatally accurate shots from the Texas Book Depository, so there is skepticism that cells of Islamic terrorists secretly coordinated and simultaneously commandeered four commercial jetliners.

The culprit responsible for the Sept. 11 attack is now rumoured to be the same one who lurked behind the grassy knoll: the oil-dependent U.S. military-industrial complex.

Not everyone is ready to accept this -- a substitute teacher in North Vancouver's Sherwood Park elementary school has been called on the mat for suggesting to Grade 5 students the Central Intelligence Agency might have been involved in 9/11.

And at last count, there were a dozen U.S. Congressional Committees investigating the tragedies and how such an intelligence and security breakdown was allowed to occur.

But President George W. Bush and his right-hand man, Vice President Dick Cheney, have taken the unprecedented step of trying to restrict those investigations, pouring fuel on the simmering conspiracy theories being propagated in alternative publications, on wingnut Web sites and among some serious media outlets.

In Germany, a former minister of technology, Andreas von Buelow, made headlines when in an interview he dismissed the U.S. government's explanation that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network is responsible for the attacks. His own explanation implicated the White House.

"I wonder why many questions are not asked," von Buelow said. "For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground; 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide attackers. Within 10 days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive."

In Britain, a flight engineer has published a detailed paper asserting the U.S. took the joysticks out of the pilots' hands using a method of remote control developed by the American military in the 1970s.

In the U.S. and Canada, independent publisher and editor Mike Ruppert (a former LAPD cop who hates the CIA) has drawn huge crowds to his two-hour lecture in which he states baldly that the U.S. government was complicit in the attacks and had foreknowledge. He opens his documentary presentation with an offer of $1,000 US to anyone who can prove any of his sources were misrepresented or inauthentic.

A former U.S. government agent also has given interviews claiming the CIA has been dealing with Osama bin Laden since 1987.

According to those who do not believe in The Lone Gunman, the truth is as plain as the nose on your face: Sept. 11's terrorist acts were planned and paid for by the CIA to enable the Bush Administration to "legitimately" bomb Afghanistan into submission on behalf of the oil industry.

After all, everyone knows the Bush family has strong and long acknowledged ties to the oil industry, as do other senior members of the administration. Cheney until recently was president of a company servicing the oil patch. National Security adviser Condoleeza Rice was a manager for Chevron. Commerce and Energy Secretaries Donald Evans and Stanley Abraham worked for Tom Brown, another oil giant.

Follow the money, as they say, and you'll find the smoking gun.

Under this scenario, conspiracy theorists say a pliant Afghan regime was essential because of plans to pipe central Asian oil across Afghanistan. And there is a harvest of coincidence and contradiction to feed such imaginings.

Consider first that the intelligence breakdown that led to 9/11 appears to have been a consequence of the Bush Administration telling the Federal Bureau of Investigation to back off on its investigation of Middle Eastern terrorism. A senior FBI investigator resigned from the agency, noisily claiming its main obstacle in the investigation was Big Oil's political influence. In an ironic twist of fate, the agent died in the World Trade Center.

(Fox Mulder, was that you? Is that why they cancelled the series?)

There also are recurring reports the CIA station chief in Dubai met with bin Laden only seven weeks before 9/11 while he was laid up for surgery. (The CIA denies this, but of course you can't believe anything it says.).."

"..Now think about this for a second: The Independent in London questions how Bush could claim in two public appearances to have seen the first plane hit the first tower long before any such TV footage was broadcast. The paper also asks why Dubya continued sitting with elementary school students after the second tower was hit and he'd been told, "America is under attack."

Very mysterious, when standard procedure for such a situation is to whisk the president away to safety. Unless -- and here is the nub -- unless he knew something more than we did that morning. As the Independent asked, "What television station was HE watching?"

This is rich stuff for those who see Them under the bed, especially since the financial miasma melds nicely with the already swirling rumour and insinuation.

In the days before the attacks, there was unusually heavy trading in airline and related stocks using a market tactic called a "put option" that essentially bets that a stock will decline in value. If you were Osama, buying puts would be a great way to boost the value of your investment portfolio.

And sure enough, unusually high numbers of put options were purchased in early September for the stocks of AMR Corp. and UAL Corp., the parents of American and United -- each of which had two planes hijacked. The U.S. government is now investigating suspicious trading in 38 companies directly affected by the events of Sept. 11.

The initial survey of beneficiaries, however, turns out not to include one tall, dark-haired, olive-skinned, Allah-loving, Saudi-born sheik. Mainly the profiteers were blue-chip, establishment, red-white-and-blue Americans, some of whom were tenants in the collapsed twin towers, such as Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, Lehman Brothers and the Bank of America, major airlines, cruise companies, General Motors Corp., Raytheon and others. Several insurance companies are also on the 38-name list U.S. and Canadian financial firms were asked to review and compare with their records for any unusual patterns.

(Which may say more about who plays the market than anything else, but why quibble with the quixotic?)

Cynics are also questioning the incredible speed with which evidence in the WTC collapse is being destroyed. Never in the history of fire investigations, they say, has evidence been destroyed before exhaustive investigations are complete.

(Say what? Two skyscrapers' worth of debris should be warehoused?)

And then there were the curious developments swirling around the anthrax public health hysteria triggered shortly after 9/11. Even dullards can appreciate that anthrax sent to a top Democrat and to the U.S. media helped unify the nation behind the war effort while literally shutting down Congress -- a remarkably useful outcome for Dubya and his gang.

Indeed, specialists in biological warfare say the anthrax appears to be a U.S. military strain and the culprit a disgruntled American scientist who possesses a rare combination of laboratory skills that make him (they believe it's a man) relatively easy to identify. Hmmm.

And who didn't smell a bad odour two weeks ago when Tennessee driver's licence examiner Katherine Smith died in Memphis under "most unusual and suspicious" circumstances. One day before her arraignment on charges she conspired to provide phoney licences to five Arabs tied by the FBI to the 9/11 attacks, her car crashed into a utility pole. The car was only slightly damaged, the gas tank was full and intact, but the vehicle was immediately engulfed in flames.

As one report pointed out, Smith and the car interior apparently were doused with gasoline, which would certainly qualify in my book as at least "suspicious."

And Memphis ... Memphis? Wasn't that the same place a noted Harvard bio-warfare expert "fell" off a bridge in December?

Scully!

The truth is out there. I know it. You too can help find it.

If you would like an activist kit to get involved in urging a full public investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath, reply to findtruth 40@hotmail.com with "Send kit."

But be warned.

The Pentagon has just established a new Office of Strategic Influence that calls for the planting of false stories in the foreign press, phoney e-mails from disguised addresses and other covert activities to manipulate public opinion.

This could be one of them.

Ian Mulgrew claims to be a Vancouver Sun reporter.