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 From: EWING2001 Oct-29 12:36 am 
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http://www.torontostar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1003791935801

Did this man predict Sept. 11?
Strange story of a jailed spy unfolds in Toronto court
Nick Pron
Staff Reporter
Oct. 23, 2001

"..While jet fighters drop bombs on Afghanistan in the wake of the World Trade Center tragedy and FBI agents search for the source of anthrax letters, an incredible tale has been unfolding in a Toronto courtroom.

It draws together the threads of a narrative some describe as "stunning and fantastic," while others wonder if it isn't just the ravings of a lunatic.

The man telling the tale in sworn court affidavits is Delmart Edward Vreeland, who faces credit fraud charges in Canada and in the United States, where officials are attempting to extradite him.

The 35-year-old American claims to be a lieutenant in a U.S. Navy intelligence unit — a spy who says he knew in advance about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In his affidavit, he says he tried to warn Canadian intelligence about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, along with targets in Ottawa and Toronto, but was written off as a petty criminal.

So he wrote the warning on a piece of paper, sealed it in an envelope, and handed it to jail guards a month before the attacks. They opened the letter Sept. 14 and immediately forwarded the information to Ottawa.

His lawyers, Rocco Galati and Paul Slansky, are fighting extradition, telling the court he could face treason charges and the death penalty in the U.S.

In the first stage of hearings, federal prosecutor Kevin Wilson yesterday told Mr. Justice Archie Campbell of the Superior Court of Justice that he was skeptical of Vreeland's claims.

"Is his story possible? I can't go so far as to say it's not possible, but it's not plausible," Wilson said.

The prosecutor said he has seen no evidence to back Vreeland's claim that Canadian embassy official Marc Bastien was murdered in Moscow in December. Canadian officials said the 35-year-old computer specialist died of natural causes.

So, who is Delmart Edward Joseph Michael Vreeland II?

According to court documents, Vreeland was 18 when he enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1984.

Two years later, Vreeland says in his affidavit, he joined a special unit investigating drug smuggling into the U.S. by naval personnel. But the navy says Vreeland was "unsatisfactorily discharged" in 1986.

Vreeland also claims he gathered information on a crime family in Detroit and testified against them in 1998.

Late last year, he says, he came to Canada to help smuggle Russian military secrets out of Moscow, including Russia's plan to counter the American "Star Wars" missile defence system. While in Moscow, Vreeland says, he met Bastien.

Vreeland was arrested by a police fugitive squad nine months ago. While in Toronto (Don) Jail, he met Nestor Fonseca, who was facing drug smuggling charges and extradition to the U.S. The court documents say Fonseca allegedly told Vreeland of his plans to kill a Toronto judge and others. Fonseca was charged with counselling to commit murder.

Galati and Slansky said in the documents that Vreeland should be put into the witness protection program in Canada because he is the main witness against Fonseca.

Galati writes in one document: "Neither myself, nor Mr. Slansky ... have seen anything as incomprehensibly frustrating, inexplicable and irresponsibly absurd ... as the RCMP's position that they are not interested in reviewing Mr. Vreeland's information."

It would appear, Galati says in the brief, that the Canadian and American governments have written Vreeland off as a "nut case," which he says is a "patently absurd conclusion..."



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 From: EWING2001 Staff Jan-31 11:13 am 
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Copvcia has refreshed the old story about Delmart Edward "Mike" Vreeland and released the original letter of him, they say

"Michael C. Ruppert, January 29, 2002

Delmart Edward "Mike" Vreeland, an American citizen whose claims to being a U.S. Naval Lieutenant assigned to the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) are being increasingly corroborated in open court, has been in a Canadian jail since December 6, 2000. On August 11 or 12 of 2001, the date is uncertain, after trying to verbally alert his Canadian jailers to the coming World Trade Center attacks, he wrote down key information and sealed it in an envelope which he then had placed in jailers' custody.

This event is not disputed by Canadian authorities. The letter specifically listed a number of targets including The Sears Towers, The World Trade Center, The White House, The Pentagon, The World Bank, The Canadian parliament building in Ottawa and the Royal Bank in Toronto."

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_28_02_vreeland.jpg

Please read also
"911-all early warnings/Prior Knowledge" at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=466.13


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 From: EWING2001 Staff Feb-13 5:22 pm 
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Strange coincidence.

A "Dr. Haider" appears in the letter by Delmart Vreeland.
Just yesterday austrian right wing leader Joerg Haider visited Saddam Hussein.

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_28_02_vreeland.jpg

 
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 From: EWING2001 Staff Feb-13 5:36 pm 
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The letter contains more strange coincidences.
On the right side you see the note "Pentagon 2002..2009"

A few weeks earlier the Pentagon released a war plan until 2008, as mentioned here on GZ
http://www.ncmonline.com/content/ncm/2002/jan/0118sixyearwar.html

Six-year War Alarms Europeans
NCM Online, By Paolo Pontoniere, Jan 18, 2002

"..Europe's growing uneasiness with the war on terrorism was reflected this week in reports published in the Belgian and Austrian press. According to Brussels' weekly The European Voice, and Vienna's daily Der Standard, the Pentagon is readying for a conflict that could last a minimum of six years and which will almost certainly expand from Afghanistan to many other nations that have been accused of harboring terrorists..."

This would not really fit with 2009, because the letter connects the year 2008 with the Pentagon, but it almost describes the same timeline.

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_28_02_vreeland.jpg

 
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 From: EWING2001 Staff Feb-14 3:55 pm 
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Good catch by "Kentuck" of DU.

The name "Haider" in Vreelands letter is obviously not Joerg Haider from austrian right wing party FPO, but Pakistan Interior Minister Moinuddin Haider.

How strong are Moinuddins ties to the ISI?

GZ will continue to investigate on that odd detail.

 
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 From: EWING2001 Staff Feb-14 4:04 pm 
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It looks like that Moin Haider is more an enemy of the ISI, who accused them to support and create terrorist groups.
More about that now at the latest reply at
"ISI-a necessary evil?" (Secret Service Intelligence-Folder)
 
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